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  • #16475
    david-astley
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    Hi I have a Ghibli and the near side front wheel judders when turning at low speed. It seems to disappear when the car is warmed through. No other judder or wobble and no apparent faults with wheel, tyre or suspension. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience.  Thanks David

    #16478
    Tony Jaskeran
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    Hi David,

    This is a strange one, first of all I’d take the wheel off and see if there is any debris or signs of  slight warping. It’s possible as the wheel goes faster the noise is being masked.

    When you have the wheel off check the wheel, hub & brake pads also.

    If you can’t see anything obvious I’d swap the wheels and see if it persists. If no then it’s the wheel otherwise it’s probably a trip to your local garage.

     

    #17782
    david-astley
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    Thanks for replies. I should have posted sooner but in short the tyres were the culprit. Apparently cold weather causes some brands and types to skip on full or near full lock. Once the tyres have warmed a little the problem goes away. Solution was to fit a tyre with softer compound or you could fit a winter tyre. The problem has gone away and I believe the ride comfort has improved. Longevity of the tyre will be reduced but I can live with that.

    #17873
    Tony Jaskeran
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    Glad to hear it was a simple fix

    #18421
    peter-cockayne
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    I’m having the same problem, now it’s cold , front tyres skipping like mad , driving me crazy, having just put new tyres on the rear seems, to of got worse, front /All tyres are currently Pirelli PZERO R20 , can anyone advise if  this is normal & what’s the best tyre  to use ?

    only had 2017 Ghibli for 9 months , so first winter.

    #18422
    david-astley
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    Hi Peter I suspect the symptoms are when you first drive the car the steering shudders quite a bit especially when close to full lock or low speed manoeuvring after a time once the car is warm and the tyres are warmer the symptoms reduce or disappear. When I researched this it became clear that the issue was the tyres and Pirelli tyres as good as they may be in other aspects, suffer badly with the shuddering problem in cold weather. The only solution I am afraid is to use different tyres with an inherently softer make up. I swapped my tyres (Pirrelli P Zero) for a midling quality brand and it has solved the problem. Of course make sure there is no other underlying issue. Hope this helps

    #18449
    peter-cockayne
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    Thanks for your reply David , yes now it cold it’s a problem, will look at an alternative tyre when due.

    let’s hope it’s a nice summer

     

    pete

    #18450
    Stephen Crozier
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    This is quite normal with wide low profile tyres all the Ghibli 3`s I have owned have done this in cold weather.
    You will find in warm weather it doesn’t do this as the side walls of the tyres have more give in them.
    I fitted a set of 18 inch wheels with snow tyres and the the noise went away as the tyres have a larger profile and more give in the side wall

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